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Jefferson, Thomas, 1743-1826

"Memoir, Correspondence, And Miscellanies, From The Papers Of Thomas Jefferson, Volume 4"

Murray is rewarded for his services by an appointment to
Amsterdam; W. Smith of Charleston, to Lisbon.

August the 24th. About the time of the British treaty, Hamilton and
Talleyrand, bishop of Autun, dined together, and Hamilton drank freely.
Conversing on the treaty, Talleyrand says, '_Mais vraiment, Monsieur
Hamilton, ce n'est pas Men honnete_, after making the Senate ratify
the treaty, to advise the President to reject it.' 'The treaty,' says
Hamilton, 'is an execrable one, and Jay was an old woman for making
it; but the whole credit of saving us from it must be given to the
President.' After circumstances had led to a conclusion that the
President also must ratify it, he said to the same Talleyrand, 'Though
the treaty is a most execrable one, yet when once we have come to a
determination on it, we must carry it through thick and thin, right or
wrong.' Talleyrand told this to Volney, who told it to me.
There is a letter now appearing in the papers, from Pickering to Monroe,
dated July the 24th, 1797, which I am satisfied is written by Hamilton.
He was in Philadelphia at that date.

December the 26th, 1797. Langdon tells me, that at the second election
of President and Vice-President of the United States, when there was a
considerable vote given to Clinton in opposition to Mr. Adams, he took
occasion to remark it in conversation in the Senate chamber with Mr.
Adams, who gritting his teeth, said, 'Damn 'em, damn 'em, damn 'em, you
see that an elective government will not do.


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